When banks did this, we immediately closed our account with a big, national US bank and moved to a local bank whose president lives in our community. Less convenient, more expensive, but worth it. We must leave the big banks and go local. Also, use CASH as much as possible to slow the transition to digital transactions.
I was standing in line at the post office and a young girl behind me was on the phone with her bank. From what I could not help hearing was she wanted to put some money she had just received all on her mortgage. Who ever she was talking to was trying to have her go another route. Right or wrong is not my point here. But what I did when she got off the phone is I turned to her and said ‘I didn’t mean to listen in , but if I could just say to you is that , the banks are not your friend. Be careful’. She looked at me and said in her nievness’ Yes they are, if you have money’. I just smiled and walked away.
TD Bank is the primary consumer bank in the states domiciled in Canada. Also, TD was just accused of opening fake bank accounts to pump their sales numbers, remember Wells Fargo? Guess the Obama era Consumer Protection Bureau missed this one. Also, Chase closed General Michael Flynn's credit card. I wrote Chase:
I am writing today to express my outrage that JP Morgan Chase is canceling accounts based solely on political affiliation or opinions that do not meld with those of the Democratic Party or Woke ideology.
Case in point, In August 2021Chase cancels General Michael Flynn's credit card; why? Most likely at the request of the Biden Administration. This man has served his county honorably and was declared not guilty of any crime. Gen. Flynn was illegally targeted by the FBI as part of the administrative coup against President Trump.
The letter to Gen. Flynn says that keeping his account open will open the bank to reputational risk. Really? Explain?
Last year the bank was fined almost 1 billion dollars for committing wire fraud in conjunction with the intent to defraud precious metals and treasury markets. If that does not expose the bank to reputational risk than what does? Oh yes, the patriot, Gen Michael Flynn.
What about Chase Bank's business dealings with the Chinese Communist Party?
Any Chase ATMs at the labor camps for imprisoned Uyghurs? The fact the you and other Wall St, firms essentially help fund the CCP is not reputational risk?
When corporations and government collude to shut down those they do not agree with, that is the definition of fascism.
Do not be surprised when a grass roots movement arises that will result in millions of us closing our accounts at Chase.
I do not expect an answer, but your actions are not unnoticed.
Chase Customer (at least for now)
Chase wrote back:
Thank you for your email and feedback to JPMC Investor Relations. We are responding on their behalf. We have contacted our customer to let them know that we didn’t close their account. We made an error and apologized for any inconvenience this caused. We have never and would never close an account due to their political affiliation. Once again thank you for your feedback, if you have any additional questions, please contact us at 1-877-805-8049.
Yes, they did. To cover up, the bank claims it made an error and apologized. There was a big blow back against Chase. Remember, Maxine Waters (CA DEM) chairs the Financial Services Committee and boldly stated that "we will come after you" meaning anyone associated with Trump.
“My interpretation of their response is, "we do not want to do this. As soon as they allowed us to, give you access to your account, we did so immediately. It wasn’t our choice,”
Well no, it was your choice actually. Tyranny requires compliance. The way it works is tyrants can't force working stiffs who DGAF to comply. They rely on a closer inner circle of people with something to lose, to comply. Bankers, cops with pensions, and in feudal times, lords, dukes, and knights. They are the "enforcers" of tyranny with the means to do the enforcing. In effect, tyranny doesn't come from the tyrant. It comes from the enforcers of tyranny.
Yes if ALL the banks stood against the "notification", the notification would have been useless but banks are not courageous entities, they had THEIR paychecks. I say GUT the banks and make them an example for other countries, don't f**k with my money Mr Banker no matter what the gov't says....we ARE the gov't not Trudeau and his band of limp-wristed cronies.
Agree completely. It is only by destruction of these institutions, by removal of their assets, that things will change. There are NO excuses that are valid for what they did. The good news is that other corrupt individuals and organizations, like the RCMP and the Ottawa Police.
Yes! Canadians should not forget the RCMP & the Ottawa police stood against the people and the SUPER BRAVE truckers. Both policing agencies need a thorough house cleaning. My question is "are the Canadians up to it?"...if they're like the Americans, they aren't...we let this foul behavior go on and on and on....
I call bullshit by the bankers (real people not corporate entities) as they were happy to freeze accounts as financial members and drivers of the great rest and the implementation of a fascist one world (de)population control system. The bankers could have made the suggestion/offer to govt/enforcers and not the other way around.
The banks were operating in a limbo. There was no legal directive to comply, only the EMA which hadn't even been passed by parliament. I watched a lawyer with the JCCF online speak of this as something the courts would have to sort out, i.e., did the banks act legally or not? If not, then I'm guessing people who suffered hardships as a result of frozen bank accounts might be able to sue.
Banks and the CRA have been freezing peoples bank accounts when they feel there may be a problem, there doesn't actually have to be a problem. This is nothing new, just bigger this time and more people know about it.
What happened to the”innocent until proven guilty”? Nowadays anybody can freeze bank accounts without being held accountable.
Only a court of justice should be allowed by a legal ruling (warrant) to freeze bank accounts but nobody else.
But in the last several years we have used the charter of Rights and Freedoms and other Supreme Law of the Land and People documents as toilet paper.
It would have been polite (but who expects the Scotiabank’s CEO to be) to have the name printed and the letter (or email) signed.
I did not see beside the apology any will to compensate the “client” for the harm done to him and his family. Not everyone gets a million dollars paycheque like this CEO even during lockdowns and other curfews.
It will be the same as the previous ones last September. Canadians have been doped by cannabis consumption, too much TV, fast food, Casino online and lotto 6/49. The next generation are worse than the previous ones.
It is also happening to other countries in Europe. Fifty years ago, none of the actual restrictions could have been implemented in France, Italy or Spain without riots, general strikes and total disobedience. Students, workers and unions would have led the demonstrations for weeks and gouvernements would have backtracked. Not anymore, we are seeing a complete apathy of the population calling for “peaceful protest”, holding hands and light candles!!!
Just wait until the upcoming energy crises, skyrocketing inflation and food shortages hit the E.U. It's just beginning due to the economic nuclear war unleashed on Russia. You reap what you sow. I guarantee you will see major civil unrest, most likely late fall and winter 2023 unless some cooler heads in the E.U prevail and get control of the situation. Even the Zoomer class likes heat in winter, petrol in the gas tank and three squares a day.
The generation you speak of knew very well what totalitarian rule was like, they knew what scarcity was like and what it meant to live very frugally. The lessons of the past are gone and the current generation unfortunately will be re-learning them the hard way.
Always "next election, next election". The moment the last vote is counted, they go ahead and do as they damn well please, and their primary aim is to get re-elected. Working for the benefit of Canada and Canadians is a sideline, a distraction.
I have lost a lot of trust in my Bank, and consider ALL Privacy Policies as BS, not just by Banks.
The banks with all of their money could have easily hired top lawyers to protect their clients but instead just bowed down to the fascist government. The banks can just pound sand as far as I am concerned.
When I saw what happened with GoFundMe, I donated to GiveSendGo, in protest. Now I will NEVER use GoFundMe for anything. However the same thing happened with GiveSendGo and my Visa donation was refunded. Now what are the alternatives? The donated funds should have been distributed as intended by the donors!
Ah. They were only obeying orders. That's alright then ...... where have I heard that before?
And I'm sure they will obey orders and withhold people's money from them the next time someone refuses to take a poison shot for Monkeypox or something else and the government makes refusing that illegal too ....... again in complete contravention of the bill of rights.
It's good to know we have our money in such "law abiding" organisations. Any Canadian, in fact anyone in the Western world, that keeps more than they have to in a bank deserves all they get in the future.
Buy Gold, buy Silver, buy anything light enough for you to carry and get off their criminal systems as much as you possibly can. If they ask why you are doing this tell them you are only obeying orders.
The only way to stop communism is to do it in advance. After communism takes over it is too late. Best way to do it is to hit him in the pocketbook and the banks are afraid they will lose profits from this. The government did not listen to the truckers but they will listen to the banks.
Keep pulling your money out. The banks are in retreat because of the loss of confidence. The only way to ensure it doesn't happen again is to keep punishing them for this breach of trust. The government only understands the pain of its corporate partners, not the pain of its subjects.
We have banked with RBC for twenty years. I wrote RBC noting our disapproval of freezing the Trucker Convoy accounts. We got a frosty reply stating the handling of the bank accounts was within the law. Since then we have moved our savings to an Alberta credit union. This way we can continue protesting our loss of freedom in Canada. The powerful, big banks will feel this and Trudeau will be held responsible for his tyrannical response to Canadians. The MSM can gloss over all that happened, but we know better.
Make sure the banks replace or pay all the fees the frozen bank accounts initiated. I would yank all money from any Canadian bank anyway....the banks can no longer be trusted bec they are puppets....not sure if CA has credit unions or whether they'd be safer to store money but I'd get so far away from banks, they'd have to close if enough members did so.
Least We NOT Forget, that there was a hacker, that had hacked the "GiveSendGo" account and produced a list of people, that had donated to the Truckers Convoy, for the RCMP to cease their accounts!...
This hacker didn't take the money, sell the credit card or personal info, but was more concerned about the list of people donating!...
Which tells me it was a government/RCMP inside hacker, that way if they were ever caught, they could say that, they were only interested in the list!!!
Any other hacker, would have taken the money, sold the credit card and personal info, while collecting off of the government for the list!!!
NO, this was a inside government/RCMP hacker, that wouldn't be able to take the other goodies, in case they were caught hacking the account and stealing the goods, they wouldn't be able to say they were only interested in the LIST!!!
PLUS why haven't we heard about the arrest of this hacker, the RCMP must know who this person is, they got the list off of them, without stealing the MONEY?
What hacker goes through all that trouble, without keeping any of the rewards, no money, no info, just a list and for how much???
Government/RCMP hackers that's who, NO ONE else, would take all this risk, for no rewards!!!
Yes, I agree that was one of Turdeau’s pet agencies. They were also doing Denial Of Service attacks on GiveSendGo. As a matter fact I was trying to donate and getting all kinds of weird messages and very slow response. So I wrote the Grand Turd and his buddies a letter asking him if there was any truth to the rumour that one of his government agencies was doing a DOS attack. Half an hour later the GSG site was clear as a bell and I donated more money! Not sure it was me but it felt good!
When banks did this, we immediately closed our account with a big, national US bank and moved to a local bank whose president lives in our community. Less convenient, more expensive, but worth it. We must leave the big banks and go local. Also, use CASH as much as possible to slow the transition to digital transactions.
Yes, the BIG banks are not our friends, they never have been. Its time to show them the door
I was standing in line at the post office and a young girl behind me was on the phone with her bank. From what I could not help hearing was she wanted to put some money she had just received all on her mortgage. Who ever she was talking to was trying to have her go another route. Right or wrong is not my point here. But what I did when she got off the phone is I turned to her and said ‘I didn’t mean to listen in , but if I could just say to you is that , the banks are not your friend. Be careful’. She looked at me and said in her nievness’ Yes they are, if you have money’. I just smiled and walked away.
Nievness isn't a word, you meant to say naivete.
Thank you. I was struggling with how to say/spell it.
TD Bank is the primary consumer bank in the states domiciled in Canada. Also, TD was just accused of opening fake bank accounts to pump their sales numbers, remember Wells Fargo? Guess the Obama era Consumer Protection Bureau missed this one. Also, Chase closed General Michael Flynn's credit card. I wrote Chase:
I am writing today to express my outrage that JP Morgan Chase is canceling accounts based solely on political affiliation or opinions that do not meld with those of the Democratic Party or Woke ideology.
Case in point, In August 2021Chase cancels General Michael Flynn's credit card; why? Most likely at the request of the Biden Administration. This man has served his county honorably and was declared not guilty of any crime. Gen. Flynn was illegally targeted by the FBI as part of the administrative coup against President Trump.
The letter to Gen. Flynn says that keeping his account open will open the bank to reputational risk. Really? Explain?
Last year the bank was fined almost 1 billion dollars for committing wire fraud in conjunction with the intent to defraud precious metals and treasury markets. If that does not expose the bank to reputational risk than what does? Oh yes, the patriot, Gen Michael Flynn.
What about Chase Bank's business dealings with the Chinese Communist Party?
Any Chase ATMs at the labor camps for imprisoned Uyghurs? The fact the you and other Wall St, firms essentially help fund the CCP is not reputational risk?
When corporations and government collude to shut down those they do not agree with, that is the definition of fascism.
Do not be surprised when a grass roots movement arises that will result in millions of us closing our accounts at Chase.
I do not expect an answer, but your actions are not unnoticed.
Chase Customer (at least for now)
Chase wrote back:
Thank you for your email and feedback to JPMC Investor Relations. We are responding on their behalf. We have contacted our customer to let them know that we didn’t close their account. We made an error and apologized for any inconvenience this caused. We have never and would never close an account due to their political affiliation. Once again thank you for your feedback, if you have any additional questions, please contact us at 1-877-805-8049.
Are you buying this?
Great letter! So they didn’t cancel Flynn’s account?
Yes, they did. To cover up, the bank claims it made an error and apologized. There was a big blow back against Chase. Remember, Maxine Waters (CA DEM) chairs the Financial Services Committee and boldly stated that "we will come after you" meaning anyone associated with Trump.
Yes, I remember them closing the account.
I need to do this. Thanks!
“My interpretation of their response is, "we do not want to do this. As soon as they allowed us to, give you access to your account, we did so immediately. It wasn’t our choice,”
Well no, it was your choice actually. Tyranny requires compliance. The way it works is tyrants can't force working stiffs who DGAF to comply. They rely on a closer inner circle of people with something to lose, to comply. Bankers, cops with pensions, and in feudal times, lords, dukes, and knights. They are the "enforcers" of tyranny with the means to do the enforcing. In effect, tyranny doesn't come from the tyrant. It comes from the enforcers of tyranny.
Little has changed in thousands of years.
Yes if ALL the banks stood against the "notification", the notification would have been useless but banks are not courageous entities, they had THEIR paychecks. I say GUT the banks and make them an example for other countries, don't f**k with my money Mr Banker no matter what the gov't says....we ARE the gov't not Trudeau and his band of limp-wristed cronies.
Agree completely. It is only by destruction of these institutions, by removal of their assets, that things will change. There are NO excuses that are valid for what they did. The good news is that other corrupt individuals and organizations, like the RCMP and the Ottawa Police.
Yes! Canadians should not forget the RCMP & the Ottawa police stood against the people and the SUPER BRAVE truckers. Both policing agencies need a thorough house cleaning. My question is "are the Canadians up to it?"...if they're like the Americans, they aren't...we let this foul behavior go on and on and on....
I call bullshit by the bankers (real people not corporate entities) as they were happy to freeze accounts as financial members and drivers of the great rest and the implementation of a fascist one world (de)population control system. The bankers could have made the suggestion/offer to govt/enforcers and not the other way around.
The banks were operating in a limbo. There was no legal directive to comply, only the EMA which hadn't even been passed by parliament. I watched a lawyer with the JCCF online speak of this as something the courts would have to sort out, i.e., did the banks act legally or not? If not, then I'm guessing people who suffered hardships as a result of frozen bank accounts might be able to sue.
Banks and the CRA have been freezing peoples bank accounts when they feel there may be a problem, there doesn't actually have to be a problem. This is nothing new, just bigger this time and more people know about it.
Very well stated!
It is worth noting, that if you google "frozen opposition bank accounts", only Canada and Russia come up. Some company there for Trudeau!
He must go as he is not accountable.
Well, he’s accountable… to the WEF.
Turdeau and his cabinet members who are connected to the WEF are TRAITORS!
Russia didn't freeze anyone's bank account, her accounts were frozen by the criminals in the West.
The first part is ignorant, the second part stupid. Kind of goes together.
Which search engine did you use? If you used Google, you didn't get accurate results.
What happened to the”innocent until proven guilty”? Nowadays anybody can freeze bank accounts without being held accountable.
Only a court of justice should be allowed by a legal ruling (warrant) to freeze bank accounts but nobody else.
But in the last several years we have used the charter of Rights and Freedoms and other Supreme Law of the Land and People documents as toilet paper.
It would have been polite (but who expects the Scotiabank’s CEO to be) to have the name printed and the letter (or email) signed.
I did not see beside the apology any will to compensate the “client” for the harm done to him and his family. Not everyone gets a million dollars paycheque like this CEO even during lockdowns and other curfews.
You need to get rid of your communist government. Start with your local MPs. Do not give up. That is what they want you to do.
But Canadians are so complacent no attempt will be made!
As are Americans. So many incumbents remained on the tickets in the May primaries.
At the next election remember what happened.
It will be the same as the previous ones last September. Canadians have been doped by cannabis consumption, too much TV, fast food, Casino online and lotto 6/49. The next generation are worse than the previous ones.
It is also happening to other countries in Europe. Fifty years ago, none of the actual restrictions could have been implemented in France, Italy or Spain without riots, general strikes and total disobedience. Students, workers and unions would have led the demonstrations for weeks and gouvernements would have backtracked. Not anymore, we are seeing a complete apathy of the population calling for “peaceful protest”, holding hands and light candles!!!
Just wait until the upcoming energy crises, skyrocketing inflation and food shortages hit the E.U. It's just beginning due to the economic nuclear war unleashed on Russia. You reap what you sow. I guarantee you will see major civil unrest, most likely late fall and winter 2023 unless some cooler heads in the E.U prevail and get control of the situation. Even the Zoomer class likes heat in winter, petrol in the gas tank and three squares a day.
The generation you speak of knew very well what totalitarian rule was like, they knew what scarcity was like and what it meant to live very frugally. The lessons of the past are gone and the current generation unfortunately will be re-learning them the hard way.
Always "next election, next election". The moment the last vote is counted, they go ahead and do as they damn well please, and their primary aim is to get re-elected. Working for the benefit of Canada and Canadians is a sideline, a distraction.
I have lost a lot of trust in my Bank, and consider ALL Privacy Policies as BS, not just by Banks.
They deserve whatever backlash they get.
The banks with all of their money could have easily hired top lawyers to protect their clients but instead just bowed down to the fascist government. The banks can just pound sand as far as I am concerned.
Bless these Truckers for taking a stand, also GoFundMe needs to apologize big time! they refunded my money, Lord help us all
GoFundMe refunded my money, but GiveSendGo has yet to do so.
When I saw what happened with GoFundMe, I donated to GiveSendGo, in protest. Now I will NEVER use GoFundMe for anything. However the same thing happened with GiveSendGo and my Visa donation was refunded. Now what are the alternatives? The donated funds should have been distributed as intended by the donors!
I received mine back from both GFM and GSG. Go Fund Me gave me a real run around, but eventually they gave in after I hounded their legal department.
I got an email from GSG saying they would, that was a month or two ago
I received mine back from both GFM and GSG. Go Fund Me gave me a real run around, but eventually they gave in after I hounded their legal department.
Too Little too late! We seen their true colors.
Ah. They were only obeying orders. That's alright then ...... where have I heard that before?
And I'm sure they will obey orders and withhold people's money from them the next time someone refuses to take a poison shot for Monkeypox or something else and the government makes refusing that illegal too ....... again in complete contravention of the bill of rights.
It's good to know we have our money in such "law abiding" organisations. Any Canadian, in fact anyone in the Western world, that keeps more than they have to in a bank deserves all they get in the future.
Buy Gold, buy Silver, buy anything light enough for you to carry and get off their criminal systems as much as you possibly can. If they ask why you are doing this tell them you are only obeying orders.
The only way to stop communism is to do it in advance. After communism takes over it is too late. Best way to do it is to hit him in the pocketbook and the banks are afraid they will lose profits from this. The government did not listen to the truckers but they will listen to the banks.
Keep pulling your money out. The banks are in retreat because of the loss of confidence. The only way to ensure it doesn't happen again is to keep punishing them for this breach of trust. The government only understands the pain of its corporate partners, not the pain of its subjects.
Crocodile tears as bankers are fully on board in implementing their fascist great reset!
Including the DIGITAL ID!
We have banked with RBC for twenty years. I wrote RBC noting our disapproval of freezing the Trucker Convoy accounts. We got a frosty reply stating the handling of the bank accounts was within the law. Since then we have moved our savings to an Alberta credit union. This way we can continue protesting our loss of freedom in Canada. The powerful, big banks will feel this and Trudeau will be held responsible for his tyrannical response to Canadians. The MSM can gloss over all that happened, but we know better.
Make sure the banks replace or pay all the fees the frozen bank accounts initiated. I would yank all money from any Canadian bank anyway....the banks can no longer be trusted bec they are puppets....not sure if CA has credit unions or whether they'd be safer to store money but I'd get so far away from banks, they'd have to close if enough members did so.
Least We NOT Forget, that there was a hacker, that had hacked the "GiveSendGo" account and produced a list of people, that had donated to the Truckers Convoy, for the RCMP to cease their accounts!...
This hacker didn't take the money, sell the credit card or personal info, but was more concerned about the list of people donating!...
Which tells me it was a government/RCMP inside hacker, that way if they were ever caught, they could say that, they were only interested in the list!!!
Any other hacker, would have taken the money, sold the credit card and personal info, while collecting off of the government for the list!!!
NO, this was a inside government/RCMP hacker, that wouldn't be able to take the other goodies, in case they were caught hacking the account and stealing the goods, they wouldn't be able to say they were only interested in the LIST!!!
PLUS why haven't we heard about the arrest of this hacker, the RCMP must know who this person is, they got the list off of them, without stealing the MONEY?
What hacker goes through all that trouble, without keeping any of the rewards, no money, no info, just a list and for how much???
Government/RCMP hackers that's who, NO ONE else, would take all this risk, for no rewards!!!
Yes, I agree that was one of Turdeau’s pet agencies. They were also doing Denial Of Service attacks on GiveSendGo. As a matter fact I was trying to donate and getting all kinds of weird messages and very slow response. So I wrote the Grand Turd and his buddies a letter asking him if there was any truth to the rumour that one of his government agencies was doing a DOS attack. Half an hour later the GSG site was clear as a bell and I donated more money! Not sure it was me but it felt good!